Deb is having quite a discussion over at her blog, ukok's place. Come on in, the water's fine. Just be civil, please!
"'The time has come,' the Walrus said, 'To talk of many things: Of shoes--and ships--and sealing wax-- Of cabbages--and kings-- And why the sea is boiling hot-- And whether pigs have wings.'" --Tweedledee; "Through the Looking Glass"